Keywords: 27.5,27.5+,650+,bike of the month,one+,sram eagle

BOTM: ONE + ENVE = BEAUTIFUL FUN - part 2

Andy Kessler - 01-Nov-2016
Here comes part 2 of the ONE + ENVE BOTM. Gerard mentioned in his last blog that we built this bike for press camp.
 
For important events we always try to build something with parts never seen before. This time it was the ENVE M60 Forty Plus wheels that Enve just launched a week before press camp. The result is a really fast trail bike for heavy trails that you normally would only  ride with a full suspension bike. Great comfort and a ton of traction. And yes Gerard was riding with pedals…he took them off before those pictures where taken...

and here are the specs:

Component Model
Model ONE +
size Large
color Matte black with white decals
headset Cane Creek 42/52
fork Rock Shox SID Rlc
stem Enve 90 all black
handlebar Enve sweep bar 760mm all black
handlebar grip ESI Racer, black
seatpost Enve 2 bolt, 27.2mm all black
saddle Fizik Tundra braided
brakes SRAM Guide Ultimate
rotors SRAM
shifters SRAM XX1  Eagle black
crank SRAM XX1  Eagle black
BB SRAM pressfit
chainrings SRAM 34T
rear derailleur SRAM XX1  Eagle black
cassette SRAM XX1 Eagle, 10-50 black
chain SRAM XX1  Eagle black
wheel Enve M60 Forty Plus
hubs DT 240
rims ENVE M60 Forty Plus
tire Schwalbe Rocket Ron, 27.5x3.0
Weight 8.5kg
 

Comments & Questions

OPEN
Price?
Post #1 of 19. Posted by beat on 01-Nov-2016 15:44:02 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1134]
OPEN
Hi Beat, we only sell frames and our dealer built them up in complete bikes. In your case that would be Backyard in Zürich. Best to contact them for a quote.
Post #8 of 19. Posted by Andy Kessler on 02-Nov-2016 11:33:12 GMT in reply to post #1 [1134<--1151]
OPEN
You guys should try the Nox Composites wheels. I think they’re better value than the Enve’s and are bullter proof: http://noxcomposites.com
Post #2 of 19. Posted by Jaques Palin on 01-Nov-2016 15:47:19 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1135]
OPEN
Just had a set shop of Knox rims and project 321 hubs,Cx ray spokes built for my open up frame dying to try it :-)
Post #5 of 19. Posted by JJ on 01-Nov-2016 15:56:30 GMT in reply to post #2 [1135<--1138]
OPEN
Cool Job ??
Tom
Post #3 of 19. Posted by Thomas Fricker on 01-Nov-2016 15:47:45 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1136]
OPEN
Cool Job !!!!!! Not ??
Post #4 of 19. Posted by Thomas Fricker on 01-Nov-2016 15:48:39 GMT in reply to post #3 [1136<--1137]
OPEN
Hy Andy. Can´t see the reason to use 27,5 wheels in a L-size bike. I have both and 29 is lot better. Needs a little bit more stregth, its true. Moving 3.0 tires (specially back one) must be hard, though
Post #6 of 19. Posted by alex on 02-Nov-2016 04:19:49 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1143]
OPEN
I thought exactly the same before a actually did ride with the 3.0 tires. I mean its not the tire i would ride in a fast race but when it comes to trail riding it actually is very surprising what you can do. I did stuff that i would have never done with a 29er wheel. Second thing that surprised me was rolling resistance. By far not as bad as I expected.
Post #7 of 19. Posted by Andy Kessler on 02-Nov-2016 11:26:38 GMT in reply to post #6 [1143<--1149]
OPEN
I think this is a thinking error, one that I see often. You would not use 27.5" in a size Large because a 29" wheel is larger? But it isn't, with a 3" tire on the 27.5" rim it's the same size. so if you would use a 2.1-2.4" tire on a 29er wheel, you basically agree that you would also use a 3" tire on a 27.5" rim because it's the same diameter overall (plus the extra width for traction etc, minus of course the extra weight).
Post #9 of 19. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 05-Nov-2016 03:13:34 GMT in reply to post #6 [1143<--1160]
OPEN
I can see where this is going. Tyre choice and wheel are the main concept with the U.P. Is there any chance of starting a tyre Q&A with clearance pics on this site. Each pair of tyres is costing me £70 or so and I've already got a garage full of rubber.
Post #11 of 19. Posted by Pancho on 09-Nov-2016 03:31:06 GMT in reply to post #9 [1160<--1168]
OPEN
Well, if you already have a garage full of tires, then that would be a great place to start measuring tires and taking photos! but seriously, we have very detailed dimensions of a specific group of tires that we use in design, but we don't have dimensions of all the hundreds of tires out there. And unfortunately the dimensions supplied by the manufacturers are often wrong, so there is no shortcut to measuring them all. I fear we won't be able to fit that into our schedule anytime soon.
Post #13 of 19. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 09-Nov-2016 06:51:33 GMT in reply to post #11 [1168<--1173]
OPEN
Thanks for the reply. I suppose rim width also has an effect. In general I'm liking WTB TCS tyres but I'd like an opinion on clement xplor MSO 36c and challenge tyres. I'll get some 650B wheels soon so looking for a suitable 2.0 tyreset tubeless for those. Quite fancy trying the WTB horizon as a winter road tyre as well.
Post #14 of 19. Posted by Pancho on 09-Nov-2016 10:55:07 GMT in reply to post #13 [1173<--1175]
OPEN
Yes, rim width also plays a role. I have no experience with the Clement so I can't say anything about those.
Post #15 of 19. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 10-Nov-2016 09:47:51 GMT in reply to post #14 [1175<--1176]
OPEN
Question, have you found any durability issues to date with the U.P. Also I would use it as my cross race/do everything bike. So long term durability, and cross performance are my concerns
Post #10 of 19. Posted by Randolph Owen on 07-Nov-2016 09:51:25 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1165]
OPEN
Nope, to the contrary. I was just discussing this morning with Andy how few issues we have seen, given how hard it's being ridden by most of our customers as we see evidenced every day by the stories and photos they sent us.
Post #12 of 19. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 09-Nov-2016 06:48:41 GMT in reply to post #10 [1165<--1172]
OPEN
hey guys...really interested in the U.P....just what I'm looking for:
a) Where are the carbon frames made?
b) I have no shop close locally, and obviously a very loyal LBS I support. Can they connect with you?
Post #16 of 19. Posted by Dave Tuit on 13-Nov-2016 19:15:00 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1178]
OPEN
may I use 38T or 36T chainring on open+ frame?
Post #17 of 19. Posted by Peter on 15-Nov-2016 04:30:53 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1179]
OPEN
for 2x, yes, for 1x, it all depends on the crank (different models have different chain lines) so best to check. And make sure you have a BOOST-standard crank.
Post #18 of 19. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 18-Nov-2016 10:42:32 GMT in reply to post #17 [1179<--1185]
OPEN
The Wheels are super. In september 2015 I did the Tour du Mont Blanc on a hardtail of a different make But with the same set up wheelwise. I was faster than the fullies!! Especially downhill these Wheels perform very well. And since this frame is much lighter than the one I used during that trip, the Open will also be greedy to Go uphill!!!!
Post #19 of 19. Posted by Marco de Vries on 13-Dec-2016 05:28:58 GMT in reply to blog [0<--1264]
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